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TWO DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE. WE'RE READY FOR THE OCTOBER 6TH MEETING. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MARINA, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES, SIR. SCOTT WILLIAMS PRESENT. JAMES WINN PRESENT. PHILIP HUMBER PRESENT.
CHRISTINA. DAVIS. PRESENT. PATRICK. COOPER. PRESENT. ROY MARTINEZ. PRESENT. MICHAEL CARMICHAEL. PRESENT. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION,
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PATRICK COOPER. WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY ITEM APPROVED TODAY WILL BE HEARD BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT ITS REGULAR MEETING WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, COMMENCING AT 9 A.M. IF YOU RECEIVED A NOTICE FOR THIS MEETING, YOU ALSO HAVE RECEIVED A NOTICE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. IF ANY ITEM IS DENIED, THE APPLICANT HAS TEN CALENDAR DAYS TO TO FILE A WRITTEN APPEAL TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE APPEAL WILL THEN BE ACTED UPON BY THE CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST AN ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. COMMENTS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES OR LESS, ALTHOUGH EXTENSIONS OF TIME CAN BE GRANTED BY THE CHAIR UPON REQUEST, THE. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING, THE WORK. WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT THE TYLER DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT 423 WEST FERGUSON, IN THE LARGE
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CONFERENCE ROOM AND. IT IS ALSO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OKAY. THE MINUTES. DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? IF THERE'S NO NO CHANGES, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. AND EXTEND. OKAY. THE FIRST ITEM IS PD 26-018.
MATTHEW GODWIN. ALRIGHTY. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY PRESENT TODAY. THIS FIRST ITEM IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. SORRY. ANNA LUNA, A SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE CITY.
THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY ITSELF RIGHT NOW IS R1 WHICH IS OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS FOR A PLANNED UNIT RESIDENTIAL. IT IS LOCATED ALONG GISH LANE AND TRACER LANE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED WITH A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL. AND WE DO HAVE SOME M2 TO THE SOUTH OR TO THE NORTH. SORRY. FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPERTY ITSELF RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY AND OR UNDEVELOPED SURROUNDING AREAS ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY AND TO THE WEST OR TO THE EAST. WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE OR WITHIN THE ETJ. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 20 COTTON STYLE RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON A SINGLE LOT AT A DENSITY OF 6.229 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS HIGHER DENSITY PATTERN THAN THE SURROUNDING R1, A NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSAL SHOULD PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND DEMONSTRATE COMPATIBILITY AND DENSITY, LOT CONFIGURATION, SETBACKS, BUILDING PLACEMENT, OPEN SPACE AND INTERNAL CIRCULATION, REQUESTED SITE PLAN REVISIONS REMAIN OUTSTANDING, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO TABLE THE ITEM TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NOTICES MAILED. ONE NOTICE WAS RETURNED IN OPPOSITION, BRINGING THE PROTEST CALCULATIONS TO 1.87%. WE ALSO DID RECEIVE THREE NOTICES OF PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE ETJ THAT IS PROVIDED AS A COURTESY AND DOES NOT CONFER TO STANDING TO PROTEST ACTIONS. THE CONCERNS RAISED WERE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, PARKING AND EMERGENCY ACCESS. STAFF RECOMMENDS TABLING THE ITEM FOR 60 DAYS TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO MAKE SITE MODIFICATIONS, AND TO ALSO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, ANNA. OKAY. THERE IS A REQUEST TO TABLE FOR 60 DAYS, BUT WE DO. SINCE NEIGHBORS MAY BE HERE, WE WANTED TO INVITE ANYONE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IF THEY'D LIKE TO. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS FIRST? SURE. THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE
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RECORD. PARKER FREEMAN WITH EXCEED DEVELOPMENTS WHERE OFFICED AT 121 SOUTH BROADWAY AT THE FAIR BUILDING HERE IN TYLER. AFTER HEARING THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE CITY'S FEEDBACK, WE ARE REQUESTING TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE DECEMBER PROPERTY AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE EXTRA TIME WILL ALLOW US TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS, HONE IN ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE CHANGED, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE CITY'S CONCERNS. WORKING WITH AN ENGINEER TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TABLE ONE FOR 60 DAYS. DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER PD 26-018 FOR 60 DAYS. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. TABLE FOR 60 DAYS. ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER Z26-029. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED WITH A MIXTURE OF AGRICULTURAL AND C ONE WHICH IS OUR LIGHT COMMERCIAL. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO C TWO WHICH IS OUR GENERAL COMMERCIAL. IT IS LOCATED ALONG OLD JACKSON HIGHWAY AND GROVE ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE, ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED WITH A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL. THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE AMENDED TO COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. WE DO HAVE. MAJORITY OF. THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE LARGELY UNDEVELOPED. WE DO HAVE THE CADILLAC TO THE NORTH AGENCY. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECENT ZONING CHANGES IN THIS AREA. OF THE NOTICES MAILED, NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MARK FRIESNER HALF ENGINEERING, 1121, EAST SOUTHEAST LOOP 323. SO THE PROPERTY IS IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A WHILE. YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE IT IS. THIS IS A SECTION OF OLD JACKSONVILLE THAT'S GOING TO SIX LANES. THE THE INTERSECTION OF GRANDE AND OLD JACKSONVILLE IS GOING TO HAVE AN OVERPASS GOING OVER IT. YOU CAN SEE UP HERE RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY. SO THE THE BACK, THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS THE IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE TOWNHOMES AT MOSAIC'S DOING. YOU'VE GOT THE CADILLAC DEALERSHIP, THE PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE WEST ON THE. YOU CAN SEE THE EXHIBIT COMING AROUND IS ALREADY ZONED C TWO. SO WE'VE GOT C TWO BOOKENDS AT THE AT THE CADILLAC DEALERSHIP. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES. SO THERE ARE TWO ZONING CASES. WE'RE DOING TWO PROPERTIES BUT WE'RE DESIGNING IT ALL AS ONE. WE'VE GOT OLD JACKSONVILLE AS A TECH STOCK CONTROLLED ROADWAY. SAME WITH THAT SECTION OF WEST GRANDE. SO WE'RE NEEDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LINING UP ALL ACCESS POINTS ACROSS, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL CIRCULATION GOING EVERYWHERE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS KIND OF LAID OUT WHAT, WHERE, HOW WE SEE THIS GOING AND WHAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE IN THERE. THERE IS A, IT'S GOT JUST LIKE YOU SEE ACROSS THE STREET, YOU'VE GOT PAD SITES WITH RETAIL BEHIND IT. AGAIN, IT'S A SIX LANE ARTERIAL THAT IS COMING THROUGH THERE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST KIND OF THIS IS WHY WE'RE FILLING IN AND KIND OF MATCHING THE C2'S ON THE TWO ENDS. WE DO OUR WE ANTICIPATE SOME SEASONAL DISPLAY WITH THESE TYPES OF RETAILERS, BUT NOT ANYTHING REALLY ABNORMAL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AGAIN, THESE TWO THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ZONING CASES, BUT THEY'RE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. SO IT'S THE SAME CONDITIONS ON BOTH OF THEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION NEED TO ASK ANYTHING ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? MOTION TO APPROVE
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Z28-0 OR Z26-029. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FAVOR. I OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS Z26-028. ALRIGHTY, THIS IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT MR. PRIESTER IS SPEAKING ON.THIS IS ALSO THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO A C-2 TO ALLOW WHAT WAS DISPLAYED A COUPLE SECONDS AGO. OF THE NOTICES, THREE NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR AND NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT. DID I HEAR A MOTION? MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE Z26-028. SECOND, WE HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHTY. PASSES. ALL RIGHT, Z26-019. ALRIGHTY. THIS APPLICATION WAS WITHDRAWN. NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED FOR THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS SINCE IT'S WITHDRAWN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY PROBABLY TO SPEAK ON IT. NEXT ITEM IS Z26-024. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS HUNTER LEACH PLANNER. WE HAVE A ZONE CHANGE FROM C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD AND NORTH TENAHA AVENUE. THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE ZONED R-2 TWO FAMILY DUPLEX DISTRICT AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE ZONED C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ARE ALSO DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THE TYLER TOMORROW FUTURE LAND USE MAP IDENTIFIES THE PROPERTY AS MIXED RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUEST WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO ALIGN THE PROPERTY ZONING WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE. THE R ONE. A DESIGNATION IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE PROPERTY'S RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND ZONING CONTEXT.
THE ZONING REQUEST SUPPORTS TYLER TOMORROW'S BROADER GOALS OF PRESERVING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, INTEGRATING DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES, AND SUPPORTING COMPLETE, WALKABLE COMMUNITIES. OF THE 20 NOTICES MAILED, NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM? DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? HUNTER. THIS IS KIND OF A CLEANUP, ISN'T IT? YES, SIR.
THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A CLEANUP ITEM. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF Z26-02 FOR A SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSES. Z26-025. OKAY. THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE FROM R1B SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT LOCATED AT THE NORTH OF THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF KENNEDY ROAD AND NORTH ROSS AVENUE. THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED R1. SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND IS UNDEVELOPED. THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST ARE ZONED R1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND UNDEVELOPED LOTS. THE TYLER TOMORROW FUTURE LAND USE MAP IDENTIFIES THE PROPERTY AS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS INTENT BY PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WHILE MAINTAINING COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE
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TO ALLOW GREATER CONSTRUCTION FLEXIBILITY AND AN IMPROVED SITE LAYOUT. THE R1D DISTRICT MAINTAINS THE SAME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE AS R1B, WHILE PERMITTING SMALLER LOT SIZES AND REDUCED SETBACKS, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DESIGN OPTIONS WITHOUT AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ESTABLISHED CHARACTER. THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND DOES NOT CREATE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS RELATED TO DENSITY, TRAFFIC OR WITH THE NEIGHBOR. NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. OKAY, YEAH, IT IS NOT DIVERSITY OF TRAFFIC OR INFRASTRUCTURE. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED ZONING SUPPORTS REINVESTMENT ALONG THE NORTH ROSS AVENUE AREA AND LINES, WITH THE EVOLVING HOUSING NEEDS IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OF THE 13 NOTICES MAILED, NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. HUNTER IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM? OR DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM Z26-025. SECOND.
YEAH WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. SEE 26-027. OKAY. APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONE CHANGE FROM M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO D BACK DOWNTOWN BUSINESS, ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH CENTER AVENUE AND EAST FERGUSON STREET. PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE ZONED D BACK AND ARE UNDEVELOPED, WHILE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, EAST AND WEST ARE ZONED M-1 AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND THE SMITH COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER TO THE SOUTH. THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TYLER TOMORROW FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AS DOWNTOWN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE TO FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. AS A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, MIXED USE GATHERING PLACE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL COTTAGES, AN OUTDOOR RETAIL AREA WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND AN OUTDOOR BAR, COMMON GATHERING AREAS AND WALKWAYS CONNECTING THE VARIOUS STRUCTURES, THE APPLICANT STATED. THE APPLICANT STATED INTENT IS TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY WHILE REVITALIZING A MORE SECLUDED AREA OF DOWNTOWN. ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE CITY ORDINANCES AND BUILDING CODES. OF THE TEN NOTICES MAILED, NO NOTICES WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HUNTER IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ONE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US ABOUT IT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS TED CAMPBELL. I'M HAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER, RODNEY CAMPBELL. I'M HIS NEPHEW. I LIVE AT 1115 WILMA TYLER, TEXAS, 75701. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THIS COMMISSION. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE. YOU YOU REALLY PLAN THE FUTURE OF GROWTH FOR THE CITY OF TYLER. WE'RE IN OPPOSITION. AS I'VE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OVER THE LAST YEAR AND HIS INTENTION. THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS IS THE SERVICE OF ALCOHOL, ESPECIALLY OUTDOORS. THERE IS A A BAR THAT'S PRETTY WELL KNOWN IN THE AREA FOR FOR THE VANDALISM THAT'S OCCURRED ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES JUST JUST WITHIN A BLOCK OR TWO OF WHERE THIS ZONE CHANGE IS. AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKING AND THE TRAFFIC, THE FACT THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL ALL AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING ACROSS THE STREET, THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T THINK AT THIS TIME THIS IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE, GIVEN SUCH A BROAD USE OF THIS PROPERTY. OF COURSE, THE THE SITE PLAN WILL HAVE TO COME BACK. AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD ACTUALLY ENTAIL TO USE FOR SUCH A SMALL HALF ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP RIGHT NOW DURING THIS ZONE CHANGE, WHETHER IT
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GOES THROUGH OR NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FENCING AROUND OUR PROPERTY. WE'RE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE'RE WE'RE LIKE A COUPLE DOORS DOWN FROM THE OLD GEORGE WHOLESALE AREA. THERE'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALL THROUGH THIS AREA THAT WILL PROBABLY REMAIN THAT WAY FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG. SO WE HAVE NO WAY TO ABATE PEOPLE COMING ON OUR PROPERTY AND VANDALIZING IT, PARKING ON OUR PROPERTY, ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT GO ON LATE AT NIGHT, AND THE THINGS THAT GO ON DOWN THE STREET LATE AT NIGHT IS USUALLY WELL AFTER MIDNIGHT, WHERE THERE'S LITTLE LIGHTING, VERY LITTLE SECURITY, AND VERY HARD TO MONITOR THOSE TYPES OF AFTER HOUR TYPE TYPES OF OPERATIONS. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PRESENCE. HUNTER, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. AND I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY HEARS IT, CHANGE THE DEBATE BACK DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET THE SAME PARKING REQUIREMENTS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. SO IF YOU CHANGE THIS INTO AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO IT.RIGHT. AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. CAMPBELL'S CONCERN. ONE OF HIS CONCERNS IS, AND I WOULD IF I LIVED IN THE AREA, I'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT DESIGNING. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. BUT THAT REALLY COMES TO MIND BECAUSE OF ALL THE SMITH COUNTY PROPERTY AROUND THERE. SMITH COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW PARKING ON ANY OF THEIR PARKING UNLESS IT'S FURTHER AWAY AT THE GARAGE. RIGHT. OKAY.
YES, SIR. SO CAN I ADD BACK? WE'RE APPROVING THE ZONE ZONING OF IT, NOT THE CONCEPT PLANNED WITHIN THIS AREA. IT IS KIND OF A CLEANUP AREA OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN. SO THIS THIS REQUEST WOULD SUPPORT THE VISION FOR FOR DOWNTOWN. BUT I THINK TO ADD TO THE QUESTION THOUGH, IS IT WOULD SUPPORT THE VISION, BUT DOES IT OFFSET SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY ON WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THERE'S THAT MUCH LATITUDE GIVEN IN THE DESIGN AND THEN OFFSET WITH DETRIMENTAL PIECES WHERE THE IMPACT IS PARKING IS NOT WELL. SO YES, ■THEY WOULD STILL MEET NEED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR FOR THE AREA. DEEPAK. I'M SORRY, THE PROPOSAL OF IT.
SORRY. LET'S SEE. TAKE YOUR TIME. YEAH. THE CONCEPT IDEA OF IT IS WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE THE REQUEST OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. IT'S IT'S JUST THE, THE ZONING FOR IT. SO NO SITE PLAN IS NEEDED FOR THE AREA. DEEPAK DOESN'T REQUIRE IT. PARKING GARAGE IS WITHIN THE WALKING DISTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THAT CAN BE USED. SO WHEN THEY HAVE THE SITE PLAN WHAT'S THE PROCESS? SO DEEPAK DOESN'T REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. IT'S JUST A ZONE CHANGE. PLAN. DEVELOPMENTS ARE WHAT REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. I MISINTERPRETED BACK THEN. OKAY, SO NOTHING WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS. NO, DEEPAK DOES NOT REQUIRE FOR FOR A SITE PLAN TO BE GIVEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST YOU SAID THE OWNER IS HERE. YEAH. IS THE DID IS ARE YOU THE OWNER, MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US WHAT YOUR PLAN IS? YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR RECORD. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS LUPITA GARCIA FLORES AND I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER OF 508 EAST FERGUSON. AND I HAVE A CASE NUMBER, C26-027. IT. THIS PROPERTY IT. I MEAN, MY KIDS GREW OVER THERE AND I GOT IT FOR ABOUT MORE THAN 40 YEARS. WHEN I BECAME DISABLED, THEY DENIED ME MY DISABILITY. I HAVE HURT ON THE JOB MY BACK BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT I HAVE THIS PROPERTY AND THIS IS ALL WHAT I HAVE. SO I DON'T KNOW. I LIKE THE WAY THE TALLER THE CITY IS DEVELOPMENT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, EVERYTHING IS GREAT, BUT MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S ALL WHAT I HAVE. IF YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY A GOOD PRICE AND IT'S YOURS. OKAY? WHAT DID
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YOU SAY YOUR ADDRESS WAS? 508 EAST FERGUSON. THE LETTER THAT SENT ME IS Z26-027. SO YOU ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR. OKAY. WHO'S THE OWNER? IS SHE THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WE'RE SPEAKING ON, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO WHO'S WHO'S MAKING THE REQUEST? BECAUSE ALL THESE ARE 400 ADDRESSES. YES. I'M CONFUSED. WHO'S MAKING THE REQUEST? WHO WANTS TO CHANGE IT? ARE YOU AGAINST ARE YOU AGAINST IT OR DO YOU OWN THE LLC? I OWN THE PROPERTY. REALLY? I'M NOT.I WOULD SAY I'M AGAINST THE CHANGE, BUT IF YOU ARE NEEDED, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH GOOD MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. I LIVE THERE, I HAVE ALREADY, THAT'S ALL THAT I CAN SAY. OKAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT THE ONE WHO'S ASKING TO PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU'RE AGAINST THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU LIVE NEAR THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I LIVE IN IN THE THE BUILDING. OH, YOU YOU ARE A RESIDENT. DO YOU RENT THERE? I OWN THE PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY, THEN WHO'S IT IS A DUPLEX. THREE APARTMENTS. IS FERGUSON FERGUSON CENTER, LLC. IS THAT YOUR COMPANY? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. NO, I'M CORRECT. IT DOESN'T WORK THE SAME. IS THE APPLICANT. YEAH IT IS. I'M TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP. DO WE NEED TO INTERPRET FOR HER TO HELP HER UNDERSTAND? ASK HER. I THINK YOU NEED TO ASK HER IF YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY. HABLA ESPANOL. OKAY. LA DUENA DE LA PROPIEDAD O ESTA ACERCA DE UNA DE LAS PROPIEDADES DE LA PROPIEDAD. ESTA TRATANDO DE CAMBIAR ESTA EN CONTRA EL CASO DE ESTA A FAVOR. AMANDA. SO, OKAY. OKAY. SHE SAYS SHE'S THE OWNER. THAT'S WHAT I'M FERGUSON CENTER, LLC. DID YOU NOT REQUEST THIS CHANGE TO SIR? I DID NOT WHO IS WHO WHO DID THE PLANNING STAFF MEET WITH? BECAUSE THERE WAS PICTURES. YEAH. THIS IS MY LETTER MYSELF.
508 STAFF THAT SHE'S OVER HERE. NO, SHE'S NOT THERE. SHE WAS ON THE EAST. SORRY, SIR. DID SHE SAY HER NAME? SO SHE'S NOT SHE'S NOT THE OWNER OF IT. SHE'S SHE'S NOT THE THE NOTICE SHE'S FURTHER TO THE EAST. AND ONE OF RODNEY'S SHE'S LUPITA FLORES. OKAY. YEAH. LET ME ASK AGAIN, IS THE IS THE OWNER OF FERGUSON CENTER LLC THAT OWNS (400) 400-4400 TEN EAST FERGUSON STREET AND 211 NORTH CENTER AVENUE? ARE THEY PRESENT HERE? OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? I STILL HAVE CONCERN OVER WHEN ANNA SAID THAT TO, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S DOWNTOWN. YOU WANT THE DOWNTOWN CULTURAL DISTRICT. THAT DEBATE DOES NOT COME BACK TO THIS BODY WITH A SITE PLAN THAT THEY JUST. I GUESS THEIR SITE PLAN GOES STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL AFTER STAFF REVIEWS IT. WITH NO PARKING. YES, IT'S QUASI IN WALKING DISTANCE TO PARKING GARAGE. IF THEY CAN MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO USE IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COUNTY WOULD FEEL ALMOST COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY. IF IT'S GOING TO BECOME A BEER HALL OR SOME TYPE OF OUTDOOR VENUE WITH ALCOHOL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS ANY EFFECT, BUT I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT DEEPAK CAME BACK THROUGH US WITH A SITE PLAN. YEAH. NO. SO DEEPAK DOES NOT REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. IT IS JUST A ZONING CHANGE. DEEPAK IS ANTICIPATED FOR WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT. SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT PROPOSAL.
IT ALSO COMES INTO PLAY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE GUIDE. IT DOES HAVE THIS AREA FOR DEEPAK AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED AND FERGUSON CENTER LLC COMES BACK WITH A SITE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST DEALING WITH THE STAFF, AND THEN IT GOES FROM THERE TO COUNCIL, THEY WON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN, SO THEY WOULD STILL REQUIRE TO GET PERMITS. SO THEY'D HAVE TO STILL GO THROUGH THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT AND THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED. BUT NO MORE THROUGH COUNCIL OR PNC. THE ZONE CHANGE WOULD ONLY BE THROUGH COUNCIL.
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IS THERE WERE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME. AND THIS ISN'T THE TIME OR THE PLACE, BUT THEY'RE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE CONFUSED. THEY. THEY THOUGHT THAT, YES, I UNDERSTAND GOING THROUGH DEEPAK. IT'S GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH ANOTHER REVIEW PROCESS WHERE I'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMENTS. THEY S BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS A PROCESS. AND THERE'S A THERE'S A KIND OF A GAP. THERE'S A DISCONNECT ON THAT ONE. SOMETHING'S NOT QUITE CLEAR. SO IF IF THERE IS A WANTING OF PARKING, A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE OPTION FOR IT.STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO TO THAT. OKAY. IS THERE A STEVEN GOT INTO THIS HERE THAT YOU SIGNED FOR THIS REQUEST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DISCUSSION. IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I VOTE TO DENY Z26-027. AT THIS TIME. I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES TO DENY. ALL
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